[Mesorah] Request for sources

[Danny Levy]

Minchat Shai on Jer 8:19, "Hadonai ein betzion" quotes Radak in Michlol:
האל"ף נחה וכן במסורת כל לשון אדנות עם מש"ה מפיק בר מן חד הה' אין בציון
So here we have half of the rule with מפיק rather than מוציא.

I looked at this pasuk in the Keter - the Mesorah Gedolah does not mention
it.

Danny


‫בתאריך יום ו׳, 3 ביולי 2020 ב-18:26 מאת ‪Jeremy Rosenbaum Simon via
Mesorah‬‏ <‪mesorah at lists.aishdas.org‬‏>:‬

> I am away for the weekend, very least, I am pretty sure the I am away for
> the weekend, very least, but I are pretty pretty sure that the Minchat Shai
> mentions it in one of the sections of Betzet’s Hosafot volume. If so, the
> notes there may give more information.
> Jeremy
>
> On Jul 3, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Mandel, Seth via Mesorah <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>
> 
> Since Danny Levy has raised the subject, it is time to review the
> well-known rule of מש"ה מוציא וכל"ב מכניס.  What I would like to know is
> when the earliest source anyone can find for this rule.
> It is clearly not from the Masorah.  The Masorah talks in Aramaic, and
> uses the word מפיק or נפק, as it does manyn times when talking about an
> letter that is pronounced, as in T'hillim 136:3 about the form l'adonei,
> the Masorah says ט' מפק' א' [כך]
> So who came up with this rule?
> [My apologies: the current state of affairs means I cannot go to search
> myself.]
>
> Rabbi Dr. Seth Mandel
>
>
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