[Mesorah] Request for sources

[Michael Poppers]

> Minchat Shai on Jer 8:19, "Hadonai ein betzion" quotes Radak in Michlol:
האל"ף נחה וכן במסורת כל לשון אדנות עם מש"ה מפיק בר מן חד הה' אין בציון
So here we have half of the rule with מפיק rather than מוציא. <
I'm no MS expert, but the other half can be found in Deu 32:6: "BUChL lo
mapiq".

All the best from
*Michael Poppers* * Elizabeth, NJ, USA

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:46 PM Danny Levy via Mesorah <
mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:

> Minchat Shai on Jer 8:19, "Hadonai ein betzion" quotes Radak in Michlol:
> האל"ף נחה וכן במסורת כל לשון אדנות עם מש"ה מפיק בר מן חד הה' אין בציון
> So here we have half of the rule with מפיק rather than מוציא.
>
> I looked at this pasuk in the Keter - the Mesorah Gedolah does not mention
> it.
>
> Danny
>
>
> ‫בתאריך יום ו׳, 3 ביולי 2020 ב-18:26 מאת ‪Jeremy Rosenbaum Simon via
> Mesorah‬‏ <‪mesorah at lists.aishdas.org‬‏>:‬
>
>> I am away for the weekend, very least, I am pretty sure the I am away for
>> the weekend, very least, but I are pretty pretty sure that the Minchat Shai
>> mentions it in one of the sections of Betzet’s Hosafot volume. If so, the
>> notes there may give more information.
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Mandel, Seth via Mesorah <
>> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Since Danny Levy has raised the subject, it is time to review the
>> well-known rule of מש"ה מוציא וכל"ב מכניס.  What I would like to know is
>> when the earliest source anyone can find for this rule.
>> It is clearly not from the Masorah.  The Masorah talks in Aramaic, and
>> uses the word מפיק or נפק, as it does manyn times when talking about an
>> letter that is pronounced, as in T'hillim 136:3 about the form l'adonei,
>> the Masorah says ט' מפק' א' [כך]
>> So who came up with this rule?
>> [My apologies: the current state of affairs means I cannot go to search
>> myself.]
>>
>> Rabbi Dr. Seth Mandel
>>
>>
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