[Mesorah] וישב ל"ח י"ב הוא

Michael Poppers michaelpoppers at gmail.com
Sun Dec 10 08:48:29 PST 2023


> Just saying: a Zakef makes absolutely no sense at all! <
RYA, agreed -- as I wrote to Mesorah this past Fri at 1501ET: "...I would (and
do) lein w/ a *r'vi'a*: as per a recent discussion, *zaqeif* would break
the main post-*esnachta* phrase at that word (*hu*), but I think the next
phrase must be connected to the *hu*, so better a *r'vi'a* on *hu* so that
the main phrase essentially is the entire set of words after the *esnachta*
 (the *tipcha* would be the main break, but since it's immediately before a
stronger *mafsiq* [the *silluq*], it's not really a break!)."
> The real question in this verse, is why is the main break in the 2nd half
of the verse on HaAdulami, and not on Yehuda. <
If, let us say, "vayinacheim Y'hudah" was graced w/ *zarqa segol* in order
to be the main break, the emphasis would be on Y'huda's widowerhood --
apparently, the *pasuq* intended that the emphasis be on Y'hudah going
sheep-shearing w/ his friend (and thus on Tamar's actions).

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 5:01 AM Yitzhak Ajzner via Mesorah <
mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:

> Just saying: a Zakef makes absolutely no sense at all!
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> This is how the 2nd half of the verse divides up (from Michael Perlman’s
> Humash):
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> Putting a zakef on “hu”, means this section splits on that word, which
> would make the verse incomprehensible.
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> The real question in this verse, is why is the main break in the 2nd half
> of the verse on HaAdulami, and not on Yehuda. Timnata modifies Va’ya’al,
> and has nothing to do with Va’yinahem. By putting the main break on
> HaAdulami, it seems like it also modifies Va’yinahem, but it doesn’t.
> Although it would require quite an effort, that can be explained.
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> Yitzhak
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> *From:* Mesorah <mesorah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org> *On Behalf Of *rabbirichwolpoe
> via Mesorah
> *Sent:* Sunday, 10 December 2023 4:44 AM
> *To:* rabbirichwolpoe <rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com>; mesorah at aishdas.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Mesorah] וישב ל"ח י"ב הוא
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> the publisher would be first in line to tell you that this *seifer* is
> not entirely based on Heidenheim>>
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> Absolutely true
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> In my experience he is usually close to RWH
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> This specific deviation was a bit of a surprise to me
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> There are other cases where RWH might be more controversial.  But afaict
> not this one
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> FWIW, I did confim this morning with 1 of my Roedelheim Humashim that RWH
> Has a revia.
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> RRW
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