[Mesorah] Hoshanot: Samech vs Sin

Sholom Simon sholom at aishdas.org
Sun Oct 20 11:33:38 PDT 2019


 And in Ha'aderes v'He'emuna, we have, at the place where a samech would
be: siguy (with a samech) but segev (with a sin)

Spelling did change over time . . . e.g., the word Sota -- in Torah with a
sin (Bamidbar 5:12, 5:29), in Talmud with a samech, which is why Rambam is
insistent on using a sin, but (most?) everybody else used a samech.

But what I thought RHT was asking about was the *pattern* he saw, rather
than simply a replacement of sin/samech.

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 1:58 PM Akiva Miller via Mesorah <
mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:

> Same thing in Kel Adon and lots of other places, like last week's Al Chet
> - Sikur ayin and Siach sifsoseinu. I  once make a list of them, but I'm not
> home right now. If you want a project for yomtov afternoon,  just grab a
> few machzorim (don't forget kinos and selichos!) and go on a treasure hunt.
>
> WHY and HOW this happened is far beyond me. These authors seem to have
> been geniuses at fancy Hebrew grammar -- I can't accept that these are
> rudimentary spelling errors. Maybe the "correct" spelling changed over time
> (like the yud that was added to David in Divrei Hayamim), but for such a
> great variety of words?
>
> I'm confident that Rabbi Mandell will come along and enlighten us, but
> YomTov will be here soon, so I wanted to post this just in case.
>
> Akiva Miller
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:37 PM Henry Topas via Mesorah <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>
>> Moed Tov,
>>
>> One of my congregants has asked me why in the sequence of this morning's
>> hoshanot, phrases in the position of samech have been replaced with
>> phrases beginning with the letter sin in the last 4 of the 7 beginning
>> paragraphs and again in many of the later "Hoshana Rabba only" paragraphs?
>>
>> Thank you and a Git Kvitel,
>>
>> HT
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