[Mesorah] Kimchi's rules

[Jeremy Rosenbaum Simon]

Constructed.

On Apr 16, 2019, at 5:17 PM, rabbirichwolpoe via Mesorah <
mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:


It seems to me to make more sense to say that Kimchi, rather than
"inventing" anything, systematized and made consistent what existed before
him."

Invent?
or
Discover?




RRW

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From: Simon Montagu via Mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>
Date: 4/16/19 3:29 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: David and Esther Bannett <dbnet at zahav.net.il>
Cc: mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>
Subject: Re: [Mesorah] Kimchi's rules


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 9:44 PM David and Esther Bannett via Mesorah <
mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:

> Methinks the time has come to clear up the discussion on Mosaret vs.
> Kimchi.
>
> All ba'alei mesorah before the Kimichis mention that there are seven
> vowels in Hebrew.
>  R' Yosef Kimchi, the father of, Radak made a serious change. He made ten
> vowels instead of seven.
>
> He did this by inventing five pairs of long and short vowels. kamatz and
> patach, tzeireh and segol, shuruk and kubutz, chirik and chirik rachav
> (with yud), cholom, and kamatz katan.
>


>
> All very logical, but non-existent before Kimchi. From these pairs, new
> rules  on d'geshim and sh'vaim appeared.  After a long vowel the following
> letter has no dagesh and the following sh'va is na'.  After a short vowel,
> the following letter has a dagesh and the following sh'va is nach.
>
> As these inventions were accepted, the rules if dikduk became different
> from the masoretic rules.
>

Which of these vowels did not exist before Kimchi? Surely they are all
there in the Masoretic text. It seems to me to make more sense to say that
Kimchi, rather than "inventing" anything, systematized and made consistent
what existed before him.


>
> Pesach kasher v'sameach
>
> David Bannett
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