[Mesorah] How widespread is ignorance of Hebrew?

[Ira L. Jacobson]

If  לילי פסחים is singular, what would the plural be?
*Ira L. Jacobson*


On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 8:15 PM Mandel, Seth <mandels at ou.org> wrote:

> And if you do not believe me about lele p'sahim, since it might be plural,
> please look at P'sachim 4:4
>
> *ד,ד*  מקום שנהגו לאכול צלי בלילי פסחים, אוכלים; מקום שנהגו שלא לאכול,
> אינן אוכלין.  מקום שנהגו להדליק את הנר בלילי יום הכיפורים, מדליקין; מקום
> שנהגו שלא להדליק, אינן מדליקין.  מדליקין בבתי כנסייות, ובבתי מדרשות,
> ובמבואות האפלים, ועל גבי החולים.
> Lele YhK is certainly singular.
>
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> *From:* Mesorah <mesorah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org> on behalf of Mandel,
> Seth via Mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:25 PM
> *To:* Michael Poppers; Ira L. Jacobson
> *Cc:* mesorah at aishdas.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Mesorah] How widespread is ignorance of Hebrew?
>
> Layla is never feminine. It is from a form like *laylay, and the qomatz he
> at the end is unstressed, not a feminine ending. That is also the basis of
> the form Lele, as in lele p’sahim; it is not the s’mikgut of the plural,
> which is Lelot, with the plural -ot as many masculine nouns have.   The
> s’ikhut of the plural would be lelot-
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> On April 14, 2019 at 11:10:34 AM EDT, Michael Poppers via Mesorah <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>
> > There are many explanations... <
> ...and I'm sure RSM (to whom I wish a r'fua shleima b'qarov!) is familiar
> w/ at least two of them: "hagadol" is a reference to (a) the end of the
> haftara; and (b) grownups (IINM, RAM quoted the S'fas Emes on this in this
> past week's JEC [of Elizabeth, NJ] parasha sheet).
>
> > the truth is that Shabbat can be of either gender <
> As opposed to, say, "layla", yet we say "Mah nishtana halayla hazeh...",
> and I don't think the phrase was created by someone ignorant in grammar.
>
> Chag Pesach Kasher v'Sameach!
> and all the best from
> *Michael Poppers* * Elizabeth, NJ, USA
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 3:55 PM Ira L. Jacobson via Mesorah <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> *At 18:02 12-04-19  +0000, Mandel, Seth via Mesorah stated the following: *
>
> "The Shabbos preceding Passover is traditionally known as Shabbos HaGadol
> — the Great Shabbos."
>
> As you all know, that is not what the Hebrew means  The great Shabbos
> would be haShabbos haG'dolah.
>
>
> There are many explanations, such as the drasha is given by a gadol.  And
> hence Shabbat is in nismakh, with a patah under the bet.
>
> But the truth is that Shabbat can be of either gender.
>
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> *Ira L. Jacobson *
>
> The Previous Rebbe once said, "If all the Jews, great and small
> alike, together said, 'Father, enough! Have pity on us and send
> us our Moshiach!' - Moshiach would certainly come!"
>                  (Sefer HaSichot 5696)
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