[Mesorah] a kleinigkeit

[Dov Bloom]

Thank you all for the excellent discussion so far.
I think it is important to expand the discussion to the other occurrences
of haMibeli.

Massoretic notes:   [Attesting that the Massoretes treated the 4 cases as a
unit]
The Massora Gedola of the Mikraot Gedolot notes on Shmot 14:11 that there
are 4 occurrences of this word: Shmot 14:11, Melachim Bet 1:3,6 and 16.
Likewise in Melachim there are notes in the Massora Gedola of 4 cases, and
in the Massora Ktana stating  4 or 4 (3 here in Melachim plus ein kvarim).
Also in the Final Massora.
Ginsburg (letter Bet sigla 316 ) notes that he found this Massora rubric in
4 manuscripts plus the printed MkGd.
The Keter doesnt show any Massora Ktana or Gedola that I found.
Leningrad has Massoretic notes, more on that at the end.

The Text:
An examination of my Leningrad facsimile edition shows all 4 cases of
haMibeli are pointed with a plain patach + a ga'aya.  This has been noted
in our discussion, and fits in with the opinion R Seth quoted from the
Minhat Shai Shmot 14:11 who says this is R Yonah's opinion. For those of
you who don't have the excellent Betzer edition of the Minhat Shai, or may
not be acquainted with R Yona, that was R Yonah Ibn Janach in his Sefer
HaRiqma, page 373.
In the Keter (Allepo Codex) Shmot is of course missing, however the 3
occurrences in Melachim are existant. In all 3 cases in Melachim, I see in
the excellent Keter-on-line, a hataf-patach plus a ga'aya. This correlates
with the second opinion R Seth quoted from the Minchat Shai, that of Radak
in his Michlol page 46 amud bet.

This would be good reason for saying, in the absence of any really strong
contrary proofs, that the Keter had in Shmot 14:11, our pasuk, a
hataf-patach plus a meteg also.

I want to add that seems what is probably Breuer's justification for the
hataf-patach + gaaya . It is not due, with all due respect to R Seth, to
Breuer's unique shita as to the ga'ayot (about which I am certainly no
expert ) but due to hard Keter text evidence from 3 places in Melachim.

On the mistaken MG in Leningrad on this word, and on the words of Eliyahu
HaBachur quoted by R Seth from the Minhat Shai, that will have to wait for
another night, it is already 2 AM.

Dov Bloom

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Yitzchak M. Gottlieb via Mesorah <
mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:

> Before commenting on the topic itself, I would like to thank all of you
> for the wonderful discussion.
>
> On Jan 28, 2018, at 15:34, Danny Levy via Mesorah <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>
> > I looked in R. Breuer's book - he does not mention this case.
>
> In טעמי המקרא, pg. 195, Brueur lists המבלי as an example of געית שוא.  In
> that same section, he gives other examples of געיות שוא on חטפים.
>
> Zuki
>
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