[Mesorah] mishneh-kesef

[Mandel, Seth]

The quotation from this post is a literal quotation from Yeivin's Introduction to the Tiberian Masorah.  This was intended by Yeivin to be an introductory survey, and he is careful to mention almost every phenomenon.  The svara about the two names he quotes in the name of Dotan. But he himself says there that the phenomenon has not been studied in detail.

As far as Dotan goes, most of his svaras are against the Masorah and against the best evidence, and Yeivin does not accept most of them.

In his detailed book on the Aleppo codex, Yeivin does not mention either ate merahiq or d'hiq.


Rabbi Dr. Seth Mandel

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From: Mesorah <mesorah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org> on behalf of Michael Poppers via Mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>
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Subject: Re: [Mesorah] mishneh-kesef

RGD et al., this paragraph from a Leining-group post<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/leining/d$27chik$20atei%7Csort:date/leining/CzQ4WwB76J8/CMc-tb_1DwAJ> by Rivka Sherman-Gold<https://www.amazon.com/Rivka-Sherman-Gold/e/B00IZ6XQZ2/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1> may be helpful: "Some Biblical Hebrew scholars use the term Dagesh Mehaber for the dagesh referred to as Atei Merahik or Dehik. Yeivin’s book on the Tiberian Masorah states that a word’s first syllable takes a dagesh if (i) it is stressed on its first syllable (which has the first full vowel, whether or not it is preceded by a shva or hataf) and (ii) it is preceded by word that has a conjunctive accent and ends in an open syllable with a kamatz or a segol. It has been suggested that the Aramaic term Atei Merahik refers to the phenomenon, whereas the Aramaic term Dehik refers to the dagesh itself."

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Juno via Mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org<mailto:mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>> wrote:
Reb Seth, can you be a little more generous in your explanation of dechik?

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On Dec 20, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Mandel, Seth via Mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org<mailto:mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>> wrote:


You are wrong.

The matter is complex, not simple at all.

My tikkun (alright, it is a Teimani tikkun, and they even care about things like ge‘ayot) does have a note that it is noteworthy.

It is termed a d'hiq, but the rules are not too well defined, even thought the d'hiq and the 'ate merahiq were both known by those versed in Masorah 1,000 years ago.


Rabbi Dr. Seth Mandel

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Subject: [Mesorah] mishneh-kesef

In the last pasuk of the 5th aliyah in Miketz, we read "mishneh-kesef".

Why does the kaf in "kesef" have a dagesh?

I'm guessing that the answer is simple and not noteworthy (because my
tikkun, which has notes all over the place, makes no comment on this).

Thanks,

-- Sholom

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