[Mesorah] Yaaleh ViYavo

Yosef Skolnick yskolnick at gmail.com
Sat Mar 30 19:30:06 PDT 2013


Found the source.
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49624&st=&pgnum=179

Rama 188:3 based on avudraham, but he says he hasn't seen anyone be noheg
this way, except apparently artscroll in their hagaddah.

Yosef Skolnick
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On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Zev Sero <zev at sero.name> wrote:

> On 30/03/2013 9:23 PM, Yosef Skolnick wrote:
>
>> Hi-
>>
>> We noticed over yomtov that the yaaleh viyavo has a phrase at the end
>> saying "Ki Al (Melech) chanun virachum atah"  Through out all the of the
>> siddurim that I have seen it has the word melech included, but in some
>> versions of the hagaddah (non of the old copys of manuscripts though) they
>> leave off the word melech.  Artscroll says that that line is from Nechemia,
>> but the word melech is also missing from there. Any thoughts?
>>
>
> Melech is part of the nusach of Yaaleh Veyavo, but some leave it out of
> benching, because it's forbidden to mention Malchus Shomayim and Malchus
> Dovid (or any other earthly malchus) in the same context.   The argument
> for leaving it in even in benching is that this is an interpolation, not
> part of the context of the first part of the bracha, so it's OK.
>
>
> --
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>
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