[Mesorah] karva shenas hasheva

[Benjamin M. Kandel]

It is certainly a kametz gadol, and it means "the seventh year came
close."  If it were a kametz katan, the phrase wouldn't really make sense
at all. It would mean something like "closeness seventh year" - it really
wouldn't make sense.  It would be the same shoresh either way, though.
And in any case, if the ba'al korei isn't makpid on shva nach and shva na,
it's not correctible.

Kol tuv

Ben Kandel

> If it were a kamatz gadol what would the word and phrase mean?  Just
> changing the part of speech doesn't necessary change the meaning of the
> phrase.  The person who told me this also said that it's a different
> shoresh, but that sounded totally out of bounds.
>
> Gershon
> gershon.dubin at juno.com
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "Benjamin M. Kandel" <bkandel at yu.edu>
> To: mesorah at lists.aishdas.org
> Subject: Re: [Mesorah] karva shenas hasheva
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:04:00 -0400
>
> Sort of.  According to the Radak's rules of shva, a shva after a kametz
> gadol is a shva na, and after a kametz katan is a shva nach.  If this is
> true, then it would follow that putting a shva na under "karva" would
> imply that the first kametz is gadol (and that the word is a regular
> verb), whereas putting a shva nach there would imply that the word is
> "korva", which would presumably be a noun.
>
> In any case, it is pretty clear that within the system of the baalei
> mesorah from Teveriah, there is no shva na after a tenua "gedola".  Ibn
> Ezra says so explicitly in Tzachos (I can get the exact reference if
> you're interested), and so does Ben Asher himself (in Dikdukei HaTeamim).
> The rule of having a shva na after a tenua gedola was first mentioned by
> Radak and adopted by many later grammarians, but earlier ba'alei dikduk
> don't mention it.
>
> Kol tuv
>
> Ben Kandel
>
>> Someone told me that saying a sheva nach in the first word of the above
>> phrase changes the meaning.  Can someone affirm+explain/refute?  Thanks.
>>
>> Gershon
>> gershon.dubin at juno.com
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