[Mesorah] Cholov Yisroel or Chaleiv Yisroel?

Ira L. Jacobson laser at ieee.org
Tue Sep 11 11:46:57 PDT 2007


At 18:22 11-09-07 +0300, D&E-H Bannett stated the following:

>Re: <<Also note the Even Shoshan dictionary, which gives both halev 
>(hataf-patah tzere) and halav (hataf-patah, patah) as nismakh forms.>>
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>Upon reading your e-mail quoted above, I checked with my copy of 
>Even Shoshan and found that it does NOT give the hataf-patach patach 
>(hp-p) form as s'mikhut.

Could you check again?

Look after the second definition (second column of page 217 in my 
edition [Qiryat Sefer, printed 1973], second and third lines).    It 
has hataf-patah, patah as the first choice (end of second line), and 
hataf-patah, tzere as the second choice (beginning of third line).

>It has hp-p as the aramaic word for milk.  It has hp-tz as the 
>s'mikhut and gives a three examples. halev-beitzim, haleiv-yonim and 
>halev-tzippor.
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>When the s'mikhut has a suffix indicating the person, his, her 
>your,etc. then it becomes hp-p.

My dictionary has halavo as hataf-patah, qamatz, holam.  Are you sure 
yours has hataf-patah, patah, holam?  Mine follows the pattern of 
hakhmamo or anavo (hataf-patah, qamatz, holam).

>  The entry for s'mikhut is given as halev, chalavo.

Check the preceding line, which has patah, patah as the first 
entry.  At least in my Even Shoshan.


>BTW, my last posting with halev hagoyyim from Yeshayahu is certainly 
>the most appropriate one for this thread.  Of course it is only 
>Tanakh and not l'shon chaza"l.
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>kvh"t,
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>David
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