[Avodah] bli neder

[Simon Montagu]

On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 11:13 AM Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:

> Aside from Ashkenazi acharonim who thought in Yiddish, the word in Chazal,
> Rishonim, etc... is either "tallisos" or "talliyos". Why the open
> question? Because the word is Greek, "stollus". The yud-sav suffix isn't
> the Hebrew feminine one. If we act like it is anyway, the word would be
> "talliyos", otherwise, "tallisos".
>

I don't accept your assertion that the suffix is not the Hebrew feminine
one, and still less your Greek etymology. The word seems like a common
formation from the root t-l-l meaning to cover, the Aramaic cognate of the
Hebrew ts-l-l.


> Similarly, "Sheirut" is indeed a feminine noun, even though the vav-tav
> is not related to that fact. Probably because service is a "receive
> and further develop" type thing. (Blame either the biology of reproduction
> or historical gender roles. Just please don't blame me.)


What is your evidence that Sherut is feminine? Ben Yehuda and Even Shoshan
both say it is masculine, but I only see one quotation in Ben Yehuda which
shows gender:  Yoma 58a "shene khelim besherut ehad"
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