[Avodah] AI/Psak

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 06:33:06AM +0300, Joel Rich via Avodah wrote:
> In its current format ChatGPT will not have all the data on the poseik
> because it will only include written responses not any of the discussions
> that led up to those and not ones that were oral.

That is a very small set nowadays. So many articles and web citings, few
oral answers remain oral.

> A more basic issue in the whole meta-physical context is what is
> consciousness or sentience, how do we know the ChatGPT will not have
> hashraat shechina.

Last iteration I suggested that a pesaq needs a poseiq. And we discussed
this in numerous conversations aout whether women can be posqos. And a
nakhri certainly can't give horaah.

But, the AI could be a good resource for a poseiq to use.

> There's also a longer-term issue concerning the joint AI/human component.
> Once radiologists stop looking at thousands of scans in detail, and only
> look at the questionable ones with ChatGPT, will they eventually lose their
> ability to read scans much as I think many people have lost the ability to
> navigate because they have Waze in their cars.

Another repeated idea, but stated shorter:

There are the facts themselves, and then learning how they are usually
handled. It think the latter is critical, which is why the gemara has a
machloqes about which negative epithet to use for someone who learned the
facts but didn't do shimush -- apprenticeship -- and yet still pasqens.

We haven't seen an AI yet built around processing facts. What we are
talking about is large language models (LLMs), like GPTs. For a LLM,
the proxy for learning mode of thought is learning mode of writing.

So, you would not only need a GPT trained on the web, you would need
one so heavily trained on teshuvos and pesaqim that it ends up combining
the facts in a pesaq-friendly way.

Now for a new extension of the thought:

People can compartmentalize, and have different styles based on context.
I don't think our LLMs are up to that yet. This is a major shortcoming,
as it means the typical poseiq may use one mode of thinking when dealing
with the metzi'us, another when dealing with the people involved, and
a third when dealing with the various halachic concepts they have to
apply to all of the above.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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