[Avodah] carrying an ID card on shabbat
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Sat Mar 9 23:02:54 PST 2013
From: Micha Berger _micha at aishdas.org_ (mailto:micha at aishdas.org)
> I don't believe that would change anything; it adds nothing to the
> clothing so the fact that it's sewn on doesn't stop it from being
> a burden. Just as one can't just pin a key to ones clothing and
> call it a button, but must either make it genuinely decorative (and
> gender-appropriate) or an integral part of a garment, one would have
> to do the same with the ID card...[--RZS]
>>So you remove the manufacturer's and shaatnez inspector's labels before
the first time you wear a garment on Shabbos? Unlike a key pin, this
is permanently attached to the garment and thus batul to it.
According to SSK pg 215 RSZA says this is why extra buttons sewn
onto a garment can be worn as well. (I am told RMF and RSYE hold
similarly.)<<
Micha Berger
micha at aishdas.org
>>>>>
If a needle and thread are actually pushed through the actual ID card and
the card is sewn onto a garment the same way a label or a button is sewn on,
you might have a point. But I think an ID card may be hard plastic and
would have to be sewn in by being enclosed in some kind of holder or pocket
or frame, so that the pocket or holder is what is sewn onto the garment
while the actual card is readily removable from this pocket or frame. So
wearing a garment with an ID sewn in this way would not really be comparable to
wearing a garment with a label or a spare button sewn in.
The Dutch Jewish community should make an outcry against a law that
requires chillul Shabbos and the whole Jewish world should make an outcry about
this. And I agree with RZS that until the law is changed, the official,
publicly stated position of the Dutch community should be that they will not
carry on Shabbos outside an eruv and that the community as a whole will pay
the fines of any individual who is arrested for refusing to be mechallel
Shabbos.
If there is an eruv somewhere but not everyone uses the eruv, then that
becomes a bit stickier, but the community should still reject this law
altogether as incompatible with the principle of religious freedom, held so dear
by western democracies.
--Toby Katz
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