[Avodah] Haman and Amaleik

Lisa Liel lisa at starways.net
Tue Feb 26 04:52:36 PST 2013

On 2/25/2013 10:34 PM, Zev Sero wrote:
> On 25/02/2013 9:57 PM, Poppers, Michael wrote:
>> In Avodah V31n30, RZS wrote:
>>> IMHO, the chiyuv is to wipe out the memory of Amalek, and that has 
>>> already been done.  There is no identifiable Amalek any more.  I 
>>> don't think the fact (if it is one) that there are physical 
>>> descendants still alive matters. There's no such nation any more; 
>>> nobody remembers them except, ironically, from the Torah. <
>> Yet we're still bidden "zachor...al tishkach" (and, presumably, 
>> "keis-Kah" has not yet been made whole, and "milchamah laH' 
>> baAmaleiq" still is occurring "midor dor")! which implies that 
>> Amaleiq is still present among us in some form (e.g. in the guise of 
>> those "b'chal-dor vador" who are "omdim aleinu l'chaloseinu"), no?
> I don't think it really has that implication.  If Shaul or Yoav had done
> their jobs properly, would that have been enough to make "keis kah" 
> complete?
> I don't think that's all it would have taken.  It's a necessary but 
> insufficient
> condition.

I think that if Shaul had done his job properly, then yes, it would have 
been enough.


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