[Avodah] Brush teeth after seudat shlishit

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 01:29:25PM -0400, Poppers, Michael wrote:
: I don't know, but Rav Hershel Schachter is quoted as equating "oleh
: al shulchan m'lachim" with the Shabbos table -- see
: http://koltorah.org/ravj/14-3%20Pat%20Akum%202.htm .

What scares me about R Jachter's article is the next paragraph, but I'll
quote the core paragraph about RHS as well:
: A fourth lenient approach regarding factory baked bread is the concept of
: "Oleh Al Shulchan Melachim." The rabbinic edict that forbids eating food
: cooked by a Nochri (Bishul Akum) applies only to food that is "fit for
: a king's table" (Oleh Al Shulchan Melachim; Avoda Zara 38a and Shulchan
: Aruch Y.D. 113:1). The Acharonim debate (see a summary of the debate
: in Mesorah 1:86-89) whether this term is defined as something worthy
: for a king to eat even at an ordinary occasion, such as his breakfast,
: or whether it refers to food that is worthy to be served at a state
: dinner. Rav Yosef Dov Soloveitchik rules that the Bishul Akum prohibition
: applies only to food that is worthy to be served at a state dinner. Rav
: Hershel Schachter is quoted as ruling that the Bishul Akum prohibition
: applies even if the food is worthy to be served at a Shabbat table.

: It is possible that the Pat Akum edict does not apply to factory
: produced bread since it is not Oleh Al Shulchan Melachim (according to
: the lenient interpretation of this rule). ...
: Furthermore, many Poskim explicitly or implicitly state that the
: Eino Oleh Al Shulchan Melachim leniency does not apply to Pat Akum
: (see Chelkat Binyamin 112:12, Tziyunim 112:112:46, and Biurim 112 p. 5
: s.v. Vegam Eino). However, Teshuvot Avnei Neizer (Y.D. 1:92) is inclined
: to rule that the Eino Oleh Al Shulchan Melachim leniency does apply to
: Pat Akum as well. Thus, it is possible to use this argument as a lenient
: consideration regarding a food that is essentially permitted.

This might mean (there are 3 other possible sevaros, after all) that
someone who eats pas palter is declaring that machine made bread isn't
oleh al shulchan melakhim. Can he use machine made challos on Shabbos?
And if so, does that include personal bread machines, or only mass
production -- literal palter?

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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