[Avodah] Vten Tal Umatar

Zev Sero zev at sero.name
Tue Oct 19 10:02:05 PDT 2010


On 19/10/2010 11:58 AM, Saul Mashbaum wrote:
> RMF says that saying since rain is beneficial in the early fall
> in chu"l  [...]

> [...] R. Vozner [...] holds (unlike RMF) that rain is unneed in
> chu"l in the early fall

Surely it depends where in chu"l.  For instance, I don't think anyone
disputes that in Bavel, and in any place with the same agricultural
calendar, one may not say Tal Umatar before late November, and that
if one did one must repeat Sh"E.  The Rosh is explicitly talking about
Provence and Spain, which have climates almost identical to that of EY;
he gives no opinion on other places.  I haven't looked at Betzel
Hachochma, but it's likely that he is talking about Australia, with a
completely different climate.  This is not the sort of thing one can
legislate for all of chu"l -- which is precisely the Rosh's point!

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