[Avodah] Vten Tal Umatar

[Saul Mashbaum]

I wrote:

RMF says that saying since rain is beneficial in the early fall
in chu"l  [...]

[...] R. Vozner [...] holds (unlike RMF) that rain is unneed in
chu"l in the early fall
RZseo wrote:
>Surely it depends where in chu"l. ...

RMF is more specific than what I wrote; he wrote "bimkomoteinu, shetzrichim
gshamim mitchilat hasha"; this presumably refers to the United States, since
the tshuva was written in 1962.
RVosner writes "chu"l" throughout the tshuva.
See the Aruch HaShulchan to OCh 117, where he states that in "Europe"
(presumably Eastern Europe) rains isn't really needed in the winter at all.
In fact, it is needed davka in the spring, when the fields are sowed.

Saul Mashbaum
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