[Avodah] Who First Said It? 6
Zev Sero
zev at sero.name
Tue Mar 9 12:58:01 PST 2010
rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com wrote:
>
>>> Rema only is dealing with Passover itself
>
>> Says who? Where does one derive such a difference? Not from the Ramo!»
>
> Zev I thought you were a strict constructionist!
I am. Strict construction tells me that the issur achila begins,
midrabanan, after the 4th hour. Absent any explicit statement
to the contrary, that includes anything that we don't eat on Pesach.
If you want to say that there are things which we don't eat on Pesach
itself, but do eat on Erev Pesach, the burden is on you to prove it.
> There is zero evidence produced so far that anyone was machmir before
> the 10th hour through the era of the Rema! The chilluq is pashut!
If it's so pashut, why don't you explain it. What *is* the chilluq
*lemaaseh* between Erev Pesach and Pesach itself? Until you do, we
must assume that when the Ramo says we don't eat matza ashira he means
from the 5th hour of Erev Pesach until the stars come out on the 9th
night.
Proof that someone ate matza ashira on Erev Pesach must include proof
that this same person *didn't* eat it during Pesach. You're assuming
that since RT and the Rosh were Ashkenazim, and Ashkenazim today are
noheg issur with matzah ashirah, therefore they must also have done so.
But who says this minhag Ashkenaz is that old? Maybe it's only 50 or
100 years older than the Ramo himself?
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