[Avodah] torah u-madda

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From: Eli Turkel <eliturkel at gmail.com>
>> I attended  yesterday the annual torah u-madda conference
some partial notes

First  talk was from Rabbi Vitman rav hamachshir of Tnuva. He discussed
how today's  food business is heavily dependent on using bacteria ....
The third talk was  from R. Rabinowitz RY of Maale Adumim. ...
. There are now devices driven by  electric
currents in the brain. 
A practical application to to moving a  prosthesis by thought waves.
Is this a melacha or not? ....


The symposium at the end was on intelligent design with all  the
speakers coming out against it
as not being scientific


--  
Eli Turkel

 
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Sounds like a fascinating and thought-provoking symposium.
 
Right at the end there, though, you have a good example of what's wrong  
with TuM.  They care way too much about what is and isn't "science" and  they 
believe that science has an exclusive claim on "truth."
 
[A] It may be that the universe is the product of Intelligent Design --  
that the Creator set it up to develop along certain lines.  
 
Two other possibilities are:  [B] Bereishis is literally true and  there is 
no "design" -- just instantaneous creation.  The world was created  in 
seven days, evolution is a totol hoax, the universe is only 5000 years old,  the 
scientists are wrong about everything and don't know what they're talking  
about.
 
[C] There was no Creator and no Creation, the universe just "is."   This is 
what Science believes.  Is this also what TuM believes?
 
I think that MO try to distance themselves from Intelligent Design because  
they know that ID is viewed with utter disdain by the scientific  
community.  Well I have bad news for them.  Es vet zey gornisht  helfen.  The 
Scientists whose approval they crave view them as one of the  lowest forms of life, 
barely above the worms known as Charedim.
 
--Toby Katz
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