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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>From: Eli Turkel <eliturkel@gmail.com><BR>>> I attended
yesterday the annual torah u-madda conference<BR>some partial notes<BR><BR>First
talk was from Rabbi Vitman rav hamachshir of Tnuva. He discussed<BR>how today's
food business is heavily dependent on using bacteria ....<BR>The third talk was
from R. Rabinowitz RY of Maale Adumim. ...<BR>. There are now devices driven by
electric<BR>currents in the brain. <BR>A practical application to to moving a
prosthesis by thought waves.<BR>Is this a melacha or not? ....<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>The symposium at the end was on intelligent design with all
the<BR>speakers coming out against it<BR>as not being scientific<BR><BR><BR>--
<BR>Eli Turkel</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Sounds like a fascinating and thought-provoking symposium.</DIV>
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<DIV>Right at the end there, though, you have a good example of what's wrong
with TuM. They care way too much about what is and isn't "science" and
they believe that science has an exclusive claim on "truth."</DIV>
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<DIV>[A] It may be that the universe is the product of Intelligent Design --
that the Creator set it up to develop along certain lines. </DIV>
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<DIV>Two other possibilities are: [B] Bereishis is literally true and
there is no "design" -- just instantaneous creation. The world was created
in seven days, evolution is a totol hoax, the universe is only 5000 years old,
the scientists are wrong about everything and don't know what they're talking
about.</DIV>
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<DIV>[C] There was no Creator and no Creation, the universe just "is."
This is what Science believes. Is this also what TuM believes?</DIV>
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<DIV>I think that MO try to distance themselves from Intelligent Design because
they know that ID is viewed with utter disdain by the scientific
community. Well I have bad news for them. Es vet zey gornisht
helfen. The Scientists whose approval they crave view them as one of the
lowest forms of life, barely above the worms known as Charedim.</DIV>
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<DIV><B><FONT color=#0000ff>--Toby Katz<BR>==========<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10"></B>--------------------</FONT></DIV>
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