[Avodah] LBD lists

[Samuel Svarc]

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 08:34:42AM -0500, Samuel Svarc wrote:
> : But look at that. There are numerous issues involved, at times
> : multiple issues for the same product...
>
> "Numerous issues involved", but are resolved as mutar lekhat-chilah
> (eg bitul by a nachri). "Involved" therefore doesn't necessarily mean
> much.

THis was already discussed. I pointed out that some people would not
like to risk adjuticating correctly machlokesin between gedolie
achronim, especially when this entails "compound heterim". Similar to
the logic of 'sfeik sfeika' but in reverse; if one needs to be correct
in this AND that AND that, or else the food isn't kosher to eat, many
people will take a pass.

> It appears to often mean that the "mutar lekhat-chilah" result was not
> self-evident without discussion. But that discussion doesn't make it
> assur.
>
> But before someone stops eating in my home for this (rather than perhaps
> a more valid reason):
> : While some, like RMB, might be willing to be 'm'tztaref' lenient
> : position upon lenient position...
>
> First, I don't see it as a lenient position.
>
> But more to the point, lemaaseh, I'm not willing. Here, speaking on a
> theoretical plane, I'm asking why what seems to me to be redundant is
> not.

I was responding to a post by R' Martin Brody not R' MIcha Berger. I
thought this was clear and I'm sorry for any confusion.


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>
> : I wonder as well at the sentiment expressed, that this is "observing
> : kashrut, stringently". It would appear that a more objective
> : evaluation would term it "observing kashrut, utilizing lenient
> : positions, at times relying on daas yochids"...
>
> What dei'os yachid? You're confusing a question with a universally
> accepted pesaq lehatir that we now avoid even asking with that pesaq
> being a da'as yachid.

In America none of the major kashrus organisations hold by this pesak.
Furthermore, they reference it to one posek, R' Moshe Feinstien zt"l
'amud hapsak sh'america b'shaytoh'. This remains a daas yochid.

KT,
MSS