[Avodah] shatz saying things aloud

[Steven J Scher]

> R' Steven J. Scher:
>> on a related note: The Soleivetich machzor points out that the Rav
>> believed that the congregation should hear every word of the hatzarat
>> ha-shatz... including the Modim Anachnu.  This suggests that the Shaliach
>> Tzibbur should also say Modim Anachnu aloud, rather than the common
>> practice of saying it in a mumble while the tzibbur says the Modim
>> d'Rabbanan.
>
R'MYG:
> The Rav might have been referencing MB 124:41.

I'm not so sure.  The MB is talking about someone who forgot Ya'aleh 
v'Yavo (or another insert where one is required to repeat Sh"E).  Then, 
instead of repeating, you can be yotze the shaliach tzibbur.

If I recall correctly, the Rav made the point that the repetition was 
always as if you were saying the prayer yourself.  Therefore, he rules 
that one should stand for the whole repetition.  See the Rema at 124,seif 
4 and the MB there (20).

But, this is my recollection from not even this past RH, but actually from 
a year ago.  Perhaps someone with access to the Machzor could report what 
it actually says???

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