[Avodah] shatz saying things aloud

Moshe Y. Gluck mgluck at gmail.com
Mon Jan 26 16:51:13 PST 2009


R' Steven J. Scher:
> This is a good point. But, could those who havn't finished shemonah esrei
> be yotzi with the tzibbur?  or, it the problem that the congregation
> doesn't necessarily have the intent to include everyone else.

Yes. But R' MF points out that you could ask your neighbor in Shul (before Davening) to be Motzi you.

> on a related note: The Soleivetich machzor points out that the Rav
> believed that the congregation should hear every word of the hatzarat
> ha-shatz... including the Modim Anachnu.  This suggests that the Shaliach
> Tzibbur should also say Modim Anachnu aloud, rather than the common
> practice of saying it in a mumble while the tzibbur says the Modim
> d'Rabbanan.

The Rav might have been referencing MB 124:41.

KT,
MYG




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