[Avodah] Ta'aroves of yayn mevushal

[Zev Sero]

David Riceman wrote:

>>> Me: See YD 123:4.  Honey is assur b'mashehu on the mizbeah (IIRC it's 
>>> in the third perek of Pesahim) so that implies psul for the mizbeah 
>>> is insufficient.

>> RZS: Honey is assur bemashehu to be *burnt on the mizbeach*, as or with a
>> korban ("lo taktiru mimenu isheh").  That tells us nothing about what
>> amount would make wine pasul for the nesachim.

> This is the opinion of R. Eliezer, but the Rambam paskens like R. 
> Akiva.

Are you referring to the machlokes in Menachot 58a?  If so, the gemara
there says that the only difference between them is the flesh of chatat
ha'of.  Neither of them bans honey that is not burnt as part of a korban,
or as a korban.  And the Rambam explicitly paskens that honey can be
brought up, even to be burnt, if it's not intended as a korban.  Clearly
nesachim, which are not burnt at all, are excluded from this prohibition.
Issurei Mizbeach 5:1-2.


> OTOH yayin mazug is passul for nisuch

Where is this?  Do you mean for our nisuch, or for theirs?  If for ours,
I can't find any reference to it in Issurei Mizbeach 6:8-9



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