[Avodah] Ta'aroves of yayn mevushal

[David Riceman]

> RLK?: Do we know if the standard used to exempt yayin mevushal from 
> the takanah of stam yayin is based on what would make it pasul for use 
> in the Bh"M or what would pasul it for (l'havdil) AZ?
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>> Me: See YD 123:4.  Honey is assur b'mashehu on the mizbeah (IIRC it's 
>> in the third perek of Pesahim) so that implies psul for the mizbeah 
>> is insufficient.
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> RZS: Honey is assur bemashehu to be *burnt on the mizbeach*, as or with a
> korban ("lo taktiru mimenu isheh").  That tells us nothing about what
> amount would make wine pasul for the nesachim.
This is the opinion of R. Eliezer, but the Rambam paskens like R. 
Akiva.  I didn't have that much time over Shabbos, and I couldn't find 
anyone who specifically discussed whether nisuch is included in the 
issur according to RA.  OTOH yayin mazug is passul for nisuch, and 
adding a bit of water is much simpler than bishul, so I'd guess that's 
more evidence (though not proof positive) that not rauy for nisuch is 
not measured by our standards, but by "theirs" (though who "they" are 
today I can't even guess).
>   Rambam Issurei Mizbeach
> 6:8 doesn't specifically mention with with stuff mixed into it, unless
> that's what's meant by "matok", which is passul.
Rashi certainly doesn't understand it that way.

David Riceman
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