[Avodah] Ta'aroves of yayn mevushal

[Zev Sero]

Daniel Israel wrote:
> The responses thus far orbit around the issue of bitul, except for
> RRW's own suggestion that it may relate to the proportion of other
> liquid added would make it no longer a hagafen. [...] It would seem
> to me that if we add enough mevushal to make the yayin pasul for
> nesicha, then the takannah shouldn't apply.

That is *exactly* what I've been saying from the beginning.


David Riceman wrote:
>> Do we know if the standard used to exempt yayin mevushal from the 
>> takanah of stam yayin is based on what would make it pasul for use in 
>> the Bh"M or what would pasul it for (l'havdil) AZ?

> See YD 123:4.  Honey is assur b'mashehu on the mizbeah (IIRC it's in the 
> third perek of Pesahim) so that implies psul for the mizbeah is 
> insufficient.

Honey is assur bemashehu to be *burnt on the mizbeach*, as or with a
korban ("lo taktiru mimenu isheh").  That tells us nothing about what
amount would make wine pasul for the nesachim.  Rambam Issurei Mizbeach
6:8 doesn't specifically mention with with stuff mixed into it, unless
that's what's meant by "matok", which is passul.


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