[Avodah] Non-zionistic TIDE rabbonim

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>>A question for Avodah -- were Austritt and TiDE inextricably  linked as
one overall hashkafah? Or can one agree with RSRH on TiDE but  relegate
Austritt to a time when R was in rapid growth and a challenge to  O?<<

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha



>>>>>
If you are asking whether austritt was a hora'as  sha'ah -- no, I really 
don't think so.
 
The T in TIDE is uncompromising, a steadfast devotion to Torah that  brooks 
no compromises with any non-Torah movement that dares to arrogate to  itself 
the word "Judaism."
 
If you are asking whether austritt would be the correct approach to the  
modern-day Medinah -- a la those Neturei Karta who refuse even to purchase  
Israeli postage stamps -- my personal opinion is that Hirsch would have done  what 
99% of charedi leaders do, which is to accept the fact of a government  which 
must be dealt with because there is no realistic alternative.  
 
I also believe that he would have seen the events of the 20th century in  E'Y 
as a mixture of ohr vechoshech mishtamshim be'irbuvya, not purely the  work 
of the Satan -- that he would have seen the many positive developments  as a 
bracha from Hashem and a sign of His continuing love of His people,  "metzitz 
min hacharakim."
 
I admit that that whole last paragraph has no source other than my gut  
feeling, based on the emanations of penumbras from the corpus of Hirsch's  writings.

 


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