[Avodah] Teshuva - postive or negative?

[Richard Wolpoe]

On 9/19/07, Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 04:13:21PM -0400, Richard Wolpoe wrote:
> : If Harata is remorse  -  an emotion such as depression would be the
> natural
> : consequence.
>
> In Shaarei Yosher, shaar 1, fourth principle, Rabbeinu Yonah literally
> links the effectiveness of teshucah to the amount of distress one has
> in charatah.
>
> GCT!
> -mi


I don't deny Rabbeinu Yona says this. I deny that it MUST be that way. Of
couse it CAN be emotionally charged - neverthelss  one can come up with
alternate viable models of Haratta.

 I believe I couched my terms in an earlier post taht Rabbeinu Yona's
approach is much more emotionally charged than the Rambam's [No surprise]

Did you know that poskim mention that being sad during Aveilus is a RESHUS
and not a CHOVA!  I would say kal vachomer for haratta!

Some people are like British stiff upper lip types. To them haratta is
regret over not making a better choice and may have the same emotional
impact as say wearing jeans instead of a suit to a social function. One CAN
realize the Faux Pas w/o getting  emotional over it.

I would add, that it might be a HIGHER level to  see things clearly and
intelligently than  emotionally and  be involved with  the coulds of
depression.  E.G. we can explain that Ya'akov was depressed over the absence
of Yosef,  and that this emotion short-circuited his nevu'ah!   Maybe had he
flet something like "gam zo ltovah" he might have had a different experience
!

If someone stole my Kiddush Becher I would  fell like Clobbering him!
The Chofetz Chaim would be mochel him.
And My Rich Cousin would simply come up with a way to write it off for more
than it was worth and come out ahead on taxes.

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