On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 04:13:21PM -0400, Richard Wolpoe wrote: : If Harata is remorse - an emotion such as depression would be the natural : consequence. In Shaarei Yosher, shaar 1, fourth principle, Rabbeinu Yonah literally links the effectiveness of teshucah to the amount of distress one has in charatah. GCT! -mi