[Avodah] halachah and history

[Micha Berger via Avodah]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:09:47AM +0200, Eli Turkel wrote:
: Of course this is pure speculation. There is know hint the sources of a
: Cohen gadol in exile.

Agreed. Although (as I mentioned) there is something of a possible
successor when they set up a Nasi to counter the Hasmonean king. IOW,
this "we have the real KG, just as soon as he could serve" is something
the Perushim would very plausibly do.

: Yochanan kohen gadol is depicted as being kohen gadol for 80 years...

No, it wouldn't be THE Yochanan KG. He did serve. I was just saying that
this KG in exile idea works for either Matisyahu or his father. And once
we posit that such a kohein could exist, we could equally posit that it
was yet another and unlisted Yochanan as much as we could posit that it
was Matisyahu.

Whomever it was would NOT be on Josephus's succession list.

On another note, I uncritically accepted the idea that Yehoyariv was
banned from getting the kehunah gedolah. Do you have a maqor? Why would
there even be such a ban, given that the honor was given to Tzadoq's
descendents. In effect 23 mishmaros were excluded, not just Yehoyariv.
The Chashmonaim would be out of the running either way.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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