[Avodah] Grape Juice

Prof. Levine llevine at stevens.edu
Tue Jul 23 10:22:57 PDT 2013


At 11:27 AM 7/23/2013, Martin Brody wrote:


>"In other words, regardless of how we would define "mevushal", it seems
>from your post that "modern day cooked grape juice" is not permitted in
>your home for kiddush and other rituals, because the cooking is done in a
>manner which prevents the fermentation from even beginning. I am curious
>from where you know that this is a halachic requirement."
>
>Any mevushal wine is not permitted by me for sacremental purposes. We are
>supposed to use best wine.That is the opinion of several decisors
>Cooked wine is deliberately destroyed. Grape juice is NOT wine and cannot
>become wine.
>Yes, decisors do permit cooked wine but not as not ideal, and even grape
>juice.
>My original claim in this thread is that it is a huge leniency, taken by
>people that are very strict on everything else.
>That they do it, is none of my business. I was just pointing out factual
>information.

What is the definition of "best wine"?   My office mate who is not 
Jewish is an expert on wine,  and I am sure he can tell you what he 
and other experts consider to be the best wine.  It may well be that 
there will be some kosher wines on his list.

However, I do not like dry wine,  and I am sure that many (if not 
all)  of the "best" wines are dry.  What I consider the best wine to 
use for kiddush for me based on my taste preferences would definitely 
not fall into the category of "best wine" as determined by 
experts.  Thus it seems to me that the terminology "best 
wine"  cannot really be defined.

And then there are those who prefer grape juice to any wine.  Does 
this mean for them grape juice is to be considered "best wine"?

YL


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