[Avodah] Grape Juice

[Kenneth Miller]

I wrote:
> In other words, regardless of how we would define "mevushal",
> it seems from your post that "modern day cooked grape juice"
> is not permitted in your home for kiddush and other rituals,
> because the cooking is done in a manner which prevents the
> fermentation from even beginning. I am curious from where you
> know that this is a halachic requirement.

R' Martin Brody answered:
> Any mevushal wine is not permitted by me for sacremental
> purposes. We are supposed to use best wine.That is the opinion
> of several decisors
> Cooked wine is deliberately destroyed. Grape juice is NOT wine
> and cannot become wine.
> Yes, decisors do permit cooked wine but not as not ideal, and
> even grape juice. My original claim in this thread is that it
> is a huge leniency, taken by people that are very strict on
> everything else. That they do it, is none of my business. I
> was just pointing out factual information.

I'm glad you included the phrase "very strict on everything else". It highlights that it's not always possible to be "very strict on everything period". Sometimes one has to choose which mitzvah he will be strict on, and which he needs to be lenient on. If someone wants to be machmir on Dina D'Malchusa Dina, and not serve wine to minors, he may choose to make Kiddush on grape juice or on challah. Another person might simply not enjoy any of the Non-Mevushal wines that are available, and the Halacha explicitly allows him to choose a Mevushal wine for the occasion.

I am still hoping you'll bring a source which shows how grape juice which is no longer able to ferment is in a different halachic category from grape juice which *is* still able to ferment. (Or was that simply your way of separating Mevushal Grape Juice from Raw Grape Juice?)

Akiva Miller

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