[Avodah] goy vs chiloni

Saul Mashbaum saul.mashbaum at gmail.com
Sat Jun 6 12:49:47 PDT 2009


RAFolger

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(b) The real thing to compare the question of a Chul Jew asking an EY
Jew in EY to do a melakha on YT sheni is whether one Jew who began
Shabbat early may ask another Jew who begins Shabbat with the zman, to
do a melakha for the former.
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This is explicitly permitted by the m'chaber on OC 263;17. The Rama
there concurs, and says "kal vachomer" one still keeping Shabbat
motzaei Shabbat may ask one who is not to do m'lacha for him. The
Mishna Brura cites this halacha as authoritative in OC 261 sk 18.

However, the comparison of this to the question of a Chul Jew asking an EY
Jew in EY to do a melakha on YT sheni is not so clear. The basis of
the permissibility in the case of early/after Shabbat seems to be that
the action the person is asking to be done is essentially permitted to
the person himself, but he voluntarily undertook not to allow himself
not to do it. The case of the chu"l Jew is not the same, since he is
forbidden to do the m'lacha himself on YT sheni me-ikkarhadin.

Saul Mashbaum



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