[Avodah] goy vs chiloni

[Arie Folger]

Regarding the fact that lo teasseh melakha is an asmakhta - sure, but
that can serve as a reason for 'Hazal to institute different rules in
one case and the other. An asmakhta tells us how 'Hazal framed that
particular phenomenon.

Regarding lifnei 'iver and 'arvut, let me just state that there is
AFAIK no prohibition of kedei sheya'assu regarding the product of
lifnei 'iver and 'arvut.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Chana Luntz <chana at kolsassoon.org.uk> wrote:
> If we had a situation where the door could be opened both ways, and the
> person happened to come upon it when it was open - maybe it might be OK,
> because of the fact that there was an alternative permissible way of doing
> it (this I guess would get into questions of lo ichpat lei - because he
> could have done it a permissible way - but does it render the object
> assur?).

But isn't almost every door like this? Now that RET [correctly]
pointed out that I was thinking about sliding doors, while he was
talking about buzzers, I must ask, isn't almost every such door one
that can be opened both ways, provided certain conditions are met
(usually either when one has a key, or when someone opens it from the
inside).

In addition, the door and building are still not modified begufam by
the operation of the electric circuit. hence it should be easy to see
the difference between that and a steak that was broiled on Shabbat.

however, your comparison with opening a letter is very correct; they
surely look completely alike (well, you can't tear open the building,
and the lack of letters to cut through is irrelevant, but you get my
point).

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