[Avodah] goy vs chiloni

[Arie Folger]

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Saul Mashbaum<saul.mashbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> This is explicitly permitted by the m'chaber on OC 263;17. The Rama
> there concurs, and says "kal vachomer" one still keeping Shabbat
> motzaei Shabbat may ask one who is not to do m'lacha for him. The
> Mishna Brura cites this halacha as authoritative in OC 261 sk 18.

That's right.

> However, the comparison of this to the question of a Chul Jew asking an EY
> Jew in EY to do a melakha on YT sheni is not so clear. The basis of
> the permissibility in the case of early/after Shabbat seems to be that
> the action the person is asking to be done is essentially permitted to
> the person himself, but he voluntarily undertook not to allow himself
> not to do it. The case of the chu"l Jew is not the same, since he is
> forbidden to do the m'lacha himself on YT sheni me-ikkarhadin.

Good point. I have to think about this and do some research here.

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