[Avodah] further on Temimos

[Prof. Levine]

At 03:52 PM 6/4/2009, Shlomo Pick wrote:

>I see that being in nyc you are unfamiliar with the concept of tnai 
>and hadlakat neriot. Anyone having a half an hour to an hour walk to 
>shul, will light candles on yom kippur eve at home, make a 
>stipulation not to be accept yom tov, and drive to shul to save an hour trip.

I am very familiar with this, because, even though I live only a 10 
minute walk from where I daven on Yom Kippur, I usually drive to shul 
Erev YK so that I can drive home after YK  when I am usually tired.

(I have to add here that my wife refuses to do this. She insists that 
once she lights candles Erev YK it is YK for her. All of my attempts 
to convince her that she can do what you suggest have fallen on deaf 
ears for years!  If I drive, she walks.)

But I think that you have missed the point I tried to make. Surely 
you will agree that if someone were to light candles before plag Ha 
Mincha with a tenai and then drive for 2 hours to get to shul, that 
this is nothing. One cannot light candles before plag for Shabbos or Yom Tov.

It seems to me that according to the Netziv who holds that there is 
no Tosefos Yom Tov for Shavuous, lighting candles before Tzeis is the 
same as lighting them before plag. This was my point.

>The reasoning is simple, the bracha over the ner is a birchat 
>mitzvah, there is an issue whether the person who lights is mekabel 
>shabbos with the bracha or not.

But it seems to me that there is no mitzvah to fulfill Erev Shavuous 
before Tzais according to the Netziv, since Shavuous does not begin 
until Tzeis.

Yitzchok Levine 
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