[Avodah] [Areivim] Tinok Shenishbah today - opinion of GedoleiHaposkim

[Ben Waxman]

I don't see in Rav Moshe's tsheuva (EH IV:59) that he is talking about Israelis. It seems clear to me that he talking about Americans as the case is about some couple who got married by a Reform rabbi and divorced in a civil court. That doesn't happen here. Secondly, where do secular people see Shomrei Torah and Mitzvot in any way that makes a difference? They see some guy at work with a kippa who goes to Mincha for 10 minutes? There is a debate going on in the list about the value of teaching Torah if the purpose is not kiruv. What value is there in "seeing many Shomrei Torah and Mitzvos"?

Ben

From: Doron Beckerman 


  They are not Tinokos Shenishbu because, to quote RMF in Even HaEzer:

  "They (Reform) are not at all to be considered Tinokos Shenishbu since they see many Shomrei Torah and Mitzvos, and see also Radbaz that there is almost no such a thing"
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