[Avodah] [Areivim] Tinok Shenishbah today - opinion of Gedolei Haposkim

[Doron Beckerman]

RMB asks:

>> This is back a generation or 2. Now that that generation is raising the
leadership of today, does the same pesaq hold? <<

Yes. Because the underlying reason remains the same. It isn't a function of
their particular Chinuch.

They are not Tinokos Shenishbu because, to quote RMF in Even HaEzer:

"They (Reform) are not at all to be considered Tinokos Shenishbu since they
see many Shomrei Torah and Mitzvos, and see also Radbaz that there is almost
no such a thing"

And RSZA:
"However it seems that it is not like a Tinok Shenishba unless he never
heard of the Jewish religion, and he did not know that based on Torah law he
is required to observe the Mitzvos, and therefore nowadays only those who
grew up in Russia during the time of the evil government... but not one who
knows that there are observant Jews who declare that all Jews are obligated
to keep the Torah, especially in Eretz Yisrael where even one who was raised
and lives in a place where they educate to heresy and consumption of Treifos
and Shabbos desecration and uprooting of every Davar Shebikdushah, such as
in "Kibbutzim" where there is no spirit of Judaism at all, nevertheless, at
the end of the day, he knows and hears that there are Shomrei Torah and that
according to what they say he must act like them, and therefore it is very
difficult to say that his status is that of Tinok Shenishbah."

[He adds that nevertheless they should not be hated, since they are Shoggeg,
and one should draw them close with bonds of love, but nevertheless they are
not the same as Tinokos Shenishbu].
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