[Mesorah] Fwd: A dikduk question

[Akiva Miller]

If Zev found the source via his knowledge and memory, then kol hakavod.

But here's a tip for those with less memory: Google that quote, and Drashos
Haran 3 is the very first hit. I've found Google to be great at finding all
sorts of direct quotes.


On Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 1:43 PM Zvi Lampel via Mesorah <
mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:

> Well, Zev, that's pretty impressive that you zeroed on into the source
> that the few words of my quote came from!
>
> Zvi Lampel
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 12:50 PM Jeremy Rosenbaum Simon <
> jeremy.simon at nyu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Zev sent around this quote on the Mesorah list. This is what I
>> replied to him there, in case you didn’t see it or didn’t go through:
>>
>> Given this context, it seems clear that the meeting is “learned”. There
>> is no reference to transmission, only what he received from הקב״ה.
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Zvi Lampel <zvilampel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Please see the attached for a more complete quote. Does the context make
>> the meaning clearer?
>>
>> ZL
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:32 AM Zvi Lampel <zvilampel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Jeremy. Are all maskim?
>>> ZL
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 11:09 AM Jeremy Rosenbaum Simon <
>>> jeremy.simon at nyu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This isn’t really a dikduk question. Without nikkud, the morphology is
>>>> not fully specified. It is a compositional question. Which meaning of the
>>>> word gives an idiomatically correct sentence. The answer to this, I think,
>>>> relies as much on the use of the word מפי as the form of למדן. The broader
>>>> context could also help. In other words, you could know every page of a
>>>> reference grammar inside and out, and still not be able to answer this
>>>> question.
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 10:37 AM, micha--- via Mesorah <
>>>> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> *From:* Zvi Lampel <zvilampel at gmail.com>
>>>> *Date:* Sep 13, 2022, 9:49 AM -0400
>>>> *To:* Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org>
>>>> *Subject:* A dikduk question
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Micha.
>>>>
>>>> Could you forward this question to those who would have an answer?
>>>>
>>>> In this sentence,
>>>> וכולן למדן משה רבינו ע''ה מפי הגבורה
>>>> does למדן mean ''he learned them''' or ''he taught them'''? (Nikud is
>>>> not given.)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Zvi Lampel
>>>>
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