[Mesorah] Fwd: A dikduk question

Zvi Lampel zvilampel at gmail.com
Tue Sep 13 10:09:40 PDT 2022


Well, Zev, that's pretty impressive that you zeroed on into the source that
the few words of my quote came from!

Zvi Lampel

On Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 12:50 PM Jeremy Rosenbaum Simon <jeremy.simon at nyu.edu>
wrote:

> Yes, Zev sent around this quote on the Mesorah list. This is what I
> replied to him there, in case you didn’t see it or didn’t go through:
>
> Given this context, it seems clear that the meeting is “learned”. There is
> no reference to transmission, only what he received from הקב״ה.
> Jeremy
>
> On Sep 13, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Zvi Lampel <zvilampel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Please see the attached for a more complete quote. Does the context make
> the meaning clearer?
>
> ZL
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:32 AM Zvi Lampel <zvilampel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Jeremy. Are all maskim?
>> ZL
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 11:09 AM Jeremy Rosenbaum Simon <
>> jeremy.simon at nyu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> This isn’t really a dikduk question. Without nikkud, the morphology is
>>> not fully specified. It is a compositional question. Which meaning of the
>>> word gives an idiomatically correct sentence. The answer to this, I think,
>>> relies as much on the use of the word מפי as the form of למדן. The broader
>>> context could also help. In other words, you could know every page of a
>>> reference grammar inside and out, and still not be able to answer this
>>> question.
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 10:37 AM, micha--- via Mesorah <
>>> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> *From:* Zvi Lampel <zvilampel at gmail.com>
>>> *Date:* Sep 13, 2022, 9:49 AM -0400
>>> *To:* Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org>
>>> *Subject:* A dikduk question
>>>
>>> Hi, Micha.
>>>
>>> Could you forward this question to those who would have an answer?
>>>
>>> In this sentence,
>>> וכולן למדן משה רבינו ע''ה מפי הגבורה
>>> does למדן mean ''he learned them''' or ''he taught them'''? (Nikud is
>>> not given.)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Zvi Lampel
>>>
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