[Mesorah] vav hahipuch and the jussive mood

[Akiva Miller]

I figured it was something like that. Thanks!

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:35 PM Mandel, Seth <mandels at ou.org> wrote:

> The same applies to all cases of cab higppukh (which is normally based on
> the jussive form): why my use the plain past tense?
> The answer lies deep within Semitic rules for recounting stories. Just as
> in spoken English, there is a formula that denotes that you are proceeding
> with the story (so he says... so I say... so he says), in Hebrew continuing
>  to tell a sequential story requires the use of a vav hahippukh. A plain
> past tense without the vav signifies a break in the narrative.
>
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> On January 13, 2020 at 8:04:59 PM EST, Akiva Miller via Mesorah <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
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> "Yehi" (yod heh yod) is usually translated as "Let it be so". Examples
> include: "Yehi ratzon etc etc" and "Yehi Shem etc etc". Rabbi Seth Mandel
> once referred to this as the "jussive" form.
>
> But when preceded by a vav, the wishfulness seems to evaporate, and it
> becomes a simple past tense - "it happened":
> Vayhi erev vayhi boker
> Vayhi miketz
> Vayhi b'etzem hayom
> Vayhi bachatzi halaila
>
> If so, then why not use the past tense ("V'hayah") in those cases? What
> meaning is added by saying "vayhi"?
>
> Akiva Miller
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