[Mesorah] Hoshanot: Samech vs Sin

[Henry Topas]

First, Yiyashar cochachem for the prompt responses.
Second:  I will now have a bit of peace over yom tov from my congregant!

Chag Sameach,

HT

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 2:30 PM Sholom Simon <sholom90 at gmail.com> wrote:

> And in Ha'aderes v'He'emuna, we have, at the place where a samech would
> be: siguy (with a samech) but segev (with a sin)
>
> It seems spelling did change over time . . . e.g., the word Sota -- in
> Torah with a sin *Bamidbar 5:12, 5:29), in Talmud with a samech, which is
> why Rambam is insistent on using a sin, but (most?) everybody else used a
> samech.
>
> But what I thought RHT was asking about was the *pattern* he saw, rather
> than simply a replacement of sin/samech.
>
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 1:58 PM Akiva Miller via Mesorah <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>
>> Same thing in Kel Adon and lots of other places, like last week's Al Chet
>> - Sikur ayin and Siach sifsoseinu. I  once make a list of them, but I'm not
>> home right now. If you want a project for yomtov afternoon,  just grab a
>> few machzorim (don't forget kinos and selichos!) and go on a treasure hunt.
>>
>> WHY and HOW this happened is far beyond me. These authors seem to have
>> been geniuses at fancy Hebrew grammar -- I can't accept that these are
>> rudimentary spelling errors. Maybe the "correct" spelling changed over time
>> (like the yud that was added to David in Divrei Hayamim), but for such a
>> great variety of words?
>>
>> I'm confident that Rabbi Mandell will come along and enlighten us, but
>> YomTov will be here soon, so I wanted to post this just in case.
>>
>> Akiva Miller
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:37 PM Henry Topas via Mesorah <
>> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Moed Tov,
>>>
>>> One of my congregants has asked me why in the sequence of this morning's
>>> hoshanot, phrases in the position of samech have been replaced with
>>> phrases beginning with the letter sin in the last 4 of the 7 beginning
>>> paragraphs and again in many of the later "Hoshana Rabba only" paragraphs?
>>>
>>> Thank you and a Git Kvitel,
>>>
>>> HT
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