[Mesorah] How widespread is ignorance of Hebrew?

[Ira L. Jacobson]

*Another, perhaps more convincing, example than the 18 of Shabbat comes to
mind: a passuq.שֹׁמֵר שַׁבָּת מֵחַלְּלוֹ וְשֹׁמֵר יָדוֹ מֵעֲשׂוֹת כָּל-רָע
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פסוק ב
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On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 7:30 PM Mandel, Seth <mandels at ou.org> wrote:

> WADR, I am not aware of any case where the Hebrew word Shabbos is
> masculine. The Yiddish word Shabes is masculine.
> The qomatz vs pasach at the end of the word is a completely different
> issue, qomatz May be correct even in s’mikhut.  It is more more complex
> that simple grammars would have you believe.
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> On April 14, 2019 at 12:25:34 PM EDT, Mandel, Seth via Mesorah <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>
> Layla is never feminine. It is from a form like *laylay, and the qomatz he
> at the end is unstressed, not a feminine ending. That is also the basis of
> the form Lele, as in lele p’sahim; it is not the s’mikgut of the plural,
> which is Lelot, with the plural -ot as many masculine nouns have.   The
> s’ikhut of the plural would be lelot-
>
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> On April 14, 2019 at 11:10:34 AM EDT, Michael Poppers via Mesorah <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>
> > There are many explanations... <
> ...and I'm sure RSM (to whom I wish a r'fua shleima b'qarov!) is familiar
> w/ at least two of them: "hagadol" is a reference to (a) the end of the
> haftara; and (b) grownups (IINM, RAM quoted the S'fas Emes on this in this
> past week's JEC [of Elizabeth, NJ] parasha sheet).
>
> > the truth is that Shabbat can be of either gender <
> As opposed to, say, "layla", yet we say "Mah nishtana halayla hazeh...",
> and I don't think the phrase was created by someone ignorant in grammar.
>
> Chag Pesach Kasher v'Sameach!
> and all the best from
> *Michael Poppers* * Elizabeth, NJ, USA
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 3:55 PM Ira L. Jacobson via Mesorah <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> *At 18:02 12-04-19  +0000, Mandel, Seth via Mesorah stated the following: *
>
> "The Shabbos preceding Passover is traditionally known as Shabbos HaGadol
> — the Great Shabbos."
>
> As you all know, that is not what the Hebrew means  The great Shabbos
> would be haShabbos haG'dolah.
>
>
> There are many explanations, such as the drasha is given by a gadol.  And
> hence Shabbat is in nismakh, with a patah under the bet.
>
> But the truth is that Shabbat can be of either gender.
>
>
>
>
> *Ira L. Jacobson *
>
> The Previous Rebbe once said, "If all the Jews, great and small
> alike, together said, 'Father, enough! Have pity on us and send
> us our Moshiach!' - Moshiach would certainly come!"
>                  (Sefer HaSichot 5696)
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