<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><font face="Arial, Helvetica" size="3" color="#008080"><i>Another, perhaps more convincing, example than the 18 of Shabbat comes to mind: a passuq.<br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,243,243);font-family:David,serif;font-size:1.2em">שֹׁמֵר שַׁבָּת מֵחַלְּלוֹ וְשֹׁמֵר יָדוֹ מֵעֲשׂוֹת כָּל-רָע </span> <span style="background-color:rgb(240,248,255);font-family:David,serif"> (<a href="https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%92%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%A2%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95_%D7%A0%D7%95" class="gmail-m_-8673942735367857561extiw" title="s:קטגוריה:ישעיהו נו" target="_blank">ישעיהו נו</a>, <a href="https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%92%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%A2%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95_%D7%A0%D7%95_%D7%91" class="gmail-m_-8673942735367857561extiw" title="s:קטגוריה:ישעיהו נו ב" target="_blank">פסוק ב</a>)<br></span><br><span style="background-color:rgb(240,248,255);font-family:David,serif"><font face="Arial, Helvetica" size="3" color="#008080"><i>---------------------------<br>
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<div dir="ltr">WADR, I am not aware of any case where the Hebrew word Shabbos is masculine. The Yiddish word Shabes is masculine.
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> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,128);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail-m_1512503063220193517null">There are many explanations...</span> <</div>
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...and I'm sure RSM (to whom I wish a r'fua shleima b'qarov!) is familiar w/ at least two of them: "hagadol" is a reference to (a) the end of the haftara; and (b) grownups (IINM, RAM quoted the S'fas Emes on this in this past week's JEC [of Elizabeth, NJ] parasha
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As opposed to, say, "layla", yet we say "Mah nishtana halayla hazeh...", and I don't think the phrase was created by someone ignorant in grammar.</div>
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<div class="gmail-m_1512503063220193517null">"The Shabbos preceding Passover is traditionally known as Shabbos HaGadol — the Great Shabbos."<br class="gmail-m_1512503063220193517null">
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As you all know, that is not what the Hebrew means The great Shabbos would be haShabbos haG'dolah.</div>
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There are many explanations, such as the drasha is given by a gadol. And hence Shabbat is in nismakh, with a patah under the bet.<br class="gmail-m_1512503063220193517null">
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