[Mesorah] Oleh veYoreid

[Mandel, Seth via Mesorah]

I don't have time to look up the others, but there is a mistake here.
The oleh v'yored can only be the first major division and so must come before the etn'cha, just  like the segol can only be the first melekh.  These are inviolable rules.
What is over b'no‘am H' is NOT an oleh v'yored, but a r'via‘ mugrash, which is a lower level.

Rabbi Dr. Seth Mandel
Rabbinic Coordinator
The Orthodox Union

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Subject: [Mesorah] Oleh veYoreid

Let's look at three examples of oleh veyoreid taken from Tehillim I found in
my siddur over the last few days:

In Ledavid H' Ori (#27), pasuq 4:
98:9, 27:4, 27:14

    ... shivtivi beveis H' Kol yemei chayai <esnachta>
    lachazos beno'am H' <oleh veyoreid>
    ulvaqeir behechalo.

There is only one request. So it would seem to me the 2nd and 3rd lines
expand on the first.  So why are they split by a greater mafsiq than the
two are separated from the phrase they expand on?

27:14, are we supposed to read the seifa as
    ... chazaq veyamaeitz libecha <esnachta>, veqaveih <ov"y>;
    el Hashem
? How does that work?

Third example, where parsing with ov"y as the greater mafsiq than esnachta
befudles me -- 98:9 (from Qabbalas Shabbos):
    ... yishpot teiveil betzedeq <esnachata>, ve'amim <ov"y>;
    bemeisharim.
Again, how does that work?

GCT, i.e. with berakhos that we are all among the olim next year, saved
from all yeridah or even esnachtos!
-Micha

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