[Mesorah] Fwd: [Avodah] Shva na

[Micha Berger via Mesorah]

Anyone want to chime in on this Avodah discussion?

-micha

--- Forwarded message from Zev Sero via Avodah <avodah at lists.aishdas.org> ---
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:17:36 -0400
From: Zev Sero via Avodah <avodah at lists.aishdas.org>
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Shva na
To: saul newman <saulnewman18 at gmail.com>, The Avodah Torah Discussion Group
	<avodah at lists.aishdas.org>
Reply-To: Zev Sero <zev at sero.name>, The Avodah Torah Discussion Group
	<avodah at lists.aishdas.org>

On 21/10/16 18:12, saul newman via Avodah wrote:
> Davening on yomkippur with tehillas hashem and artscroll open
> simultaneously on the Binah , it seems that there are differences in the
> designation of shva na , in that there were a lot more of these in the L
> tradition( or else the mark designated something else.  ).  Is there
> variations across communities in the tefilot as to which Shvas are na
> versus nach?

Davening on yomkippur with tehillas hashem and artscroll open
simultaneously on the Binah, it seems that there are differences in
the designation of shva na, in that there were a lot more of these in
the L tradition (or else the mark designated something else.) Is there
variations across communities in the tefilot as to which Shvas are na
versus nach?

Tehilas Hashem follows the shita of 18th-century grammarian R Zalman
Hanau.  I don't know that this is any kind of Lubavitcher tradition;
I think it more likely that it was simply a matter of the editor of
the first American edition (who later became LR) looking for a
similar-enough siddur to cut and paste for photo offset, and
happening to choose one that had followed this shita.  Since in
practise most Lubavitchers are not makpid on correct pronunciation
in davening (as opposed to laining), I wonder if he even noticed
this detail.

(Many decades later he mentioned publicly that the siddur had been
prepared in a hurry because there was a shortage of siddurim at the
time, and he had not been able to put as much care into it as he
would have liked.)

In the '90s there was an edition published in Kfar Chabad, in which
the shva nas were marked according to the rules taught by R Mottel
Shusterman a"h, who for many years was the bal korei in 770, and
whom the LR had instructed to teach dikduk at Oholei Torah.  It was
met with a negative reception, and I don't know whether it has been
reprinted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Hanau

PS: I wrote "the first American edition" because Lubavitch published
two editions of Tehilas Hashem in Rostov during WW1, one in Nusach
Lubavitch and one in Nusach Ashkenaz, for the benefit of the many
NA-davening refugees who needed siddurim.