[Mesorah] Accents

Tue Jun 30 08:30:36 PDT 2015

  Last question first;  I use the Simanim tikun and have never found (don't mean they ain't) a mistake.  Second, I suggest you look in the Emes LeYaakov from Rav Yaakov Kaminetsky (can't give exact cite right now) in which he discusses whether or not the milra character of this formation is in fact zara or follows the rule perfectly (as is his wont he formulates the rule and shows how everything fits).   So rather than trying to follow when something is an exception and when not, you can follow a rule and see when it applies and when it doesn't. Finally, hi Sholom;  nice hearing from you. Gershon
gershon.dubin at juno.com

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From: Sholom Simon via Mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>
To: "mesorah at lists.aishdas.org" <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>
Cc: Adam Berman <adam_bman at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Mesorah] Accents
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:23:11 -0400

>From a young friend of mine (YU student who also leyns at his local shul) His questions are getting way too hard for me. Does anybody have any thoughts on any of these issues? I noticed a few weeks ago (parshas Behaalosecha) that there was a machlokes about a word whether the accent should be m'leil or m'lera.  The Minchas Shai brings down this machlokes on Bamidbar 11:8 on the word ùèå.  I did a little research and found a Gur Aryeh on Rashi to Breishis 34:29 s.v. “ùÑÈáåÌ" that says a two letter root in past tense always has "ta'am m'leil."  Although the Minchas Shai seemed to think ùèå should be accented m'lerah, he said that was "òì ãøê äæøåú" i.e. strange.  In other words, I think he would agree to the Gur Aryeh's rule in general, albeit with some exceptions.  
[I know current grammar systems consider those verbs as having three letter roots i.e. ùáå wouldn't be ùá, rather ùáä.]   I came across a few other verbs of this kind.  One appears in Bamidbar 13:32, "úøå" and the other in this week's parsha Bamidbar 20:13 "øáå."  I don't know if I can rely on my tikkun for the right pronunciation, especially when there is a discrepancy between different tikkuns.  Do you know a good place to look that is authoritative on these issues?
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