[Mesorah] Fwd: Accents

Ben Kandel via Mesorah mesorah at lists.aishdas.org
Thu Jul 2 09:10:08 PDT 2015


Sorry, one more thing:  The Keter doesn't exist for Bamidbar, but the
Leningrad codex does.  In any case, using the Breuer editions will get you
as close to an authoritative version of chumash that exists.

2015-07-02 12:06 GMT-04:00 Ben Kandel <ben.kandel at sbcglobal.net>:

> A few clarifications:
> The root of shatu (STU) is shin-vav-tet (SUT), like "taru" (TUR), not STU
> (shin-tet-vav).  So the past/perfect tense would normally be mil'eil, which
> is why this instance, which is mil'ra, is unusual (hence Minchat Shai's
> comment).
>
> The authoritative version of the Torah is the Keter Aram Soba, which is
> supposed to be produced by Ben Asher himself, one of the greatest of the
> ba'alei mesorah.  You can access it online at
> http://www.aleppocodex.org/homepage.html.  There are several printed
> Tanach's that use this text:  The original Breuer edition published by
> Mossad Harav Kook, the Simanim version of Tanach (although not, for some
> reason, their tikkun, even though it is an excellent tikkun), the Torat
> Chaim mikraot gedolot published by Mossad Harav Kook, and the Hebrew
> University Keter Tanach.  (Recent versions of the Simanim tikkun make a
> note where the Keter is different from other versions in their notes on the
> side.)
>
> And since I seem often to be in the position of defending the beleaguered
> Ashkenazi pronunciation:  Most of the rules for shva na/nach are sort of
> like the rule in English against splitting infinitives:  Arbitrary,
> artificial, and unhelpful.  Klal zeh n'kot beyadach: The sheva is intended
> to make pronunciation *easier*, not more difficult.  People naturally put
> sheva's in between two identical letters and in some other instances, but
> certainly not following tenuot gedolot.  And for those of us who do not
> geminate our consonants (which is nearly everyone of Ashkenazic
> persuasion), there seems to me little reason to insist on a sheva na in
> that case also.
>
> Kol tuv
>
> Ben
>
> 2015-07-01 17:02 GMT-04:00 Jeremy Rosenbaum Simon via Mesorah <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>:
>
>> This sefer is included in at least some of the large editions of the
>> Tikkun Simanim.
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Micha Berger via Mesorah <
>> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 01:04:07PM -0400, Toby Katz via Mesorah wrote:
>>> : From my brother, Heshy Bulman.  My apologies if others have already
>>> : mentioned the sefer he names.
>>>
>>> Before I go off on a tangent, it's at http://www.hebrewbooks.org/33823
>>> which should hold him until he finds a physical copy. Also, if he
>>> cannot find the republished copy, he can at least print the
>>> hebrewbooks version ($8+shipping softcover)
>>> http://www.publishyoursefer.com/reprints/t/8686
>>>
>>>
>>> The rebbe a few of my sons had for pre-1a is a friend of mine. Some
>>> 20 years ago or so, when I attended his pre-year overview of the
>>> syllabus. Which begins with "qamatz alef - a" and ends with sheva
>>> na / nach.
>>>
>>> After is was over, I took him aside and said, if you want the boys to
>>> actually use what you're teaching, it would pay to call the subject
>>> "qeri'ah".
>>>
>>> Similarly, I bet you the seifer your brother is looking for is "Mesoras
>>> haQeriah" -- the quf is degushah, so the sheva is na.
>>>
>>> Tir'u baTov!
>>> -Micha
>>>
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>>
>>
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>> Columbia University
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