[Mesorah] Shaarei Yashar or Shaarei Yosher?
Ben K via Mesorah
mesorah at lists.aishdas.org
Mon Aug 24 09:13:26 PDT 2015
Interesting. I agree, "gates that lead to honesty" is a better translation
than "upright gates".
I still think that "shaarei yashar" is exceedingly unlikely.
2015-08-24 11:09 GMT-04:00 Akiva Miller via Mesorah <
mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>:
> I thinks RZS is making a very strong point.
>
> example: shaarei tzedek = gates of righteousness, literally.
>
> but that can mean either of 2 things. "gates which are righteous" is much
> less likely than "gates which lead to righteousness"
>
> akiva
> On Aug 24, 2015 11:03 AM, "Zev Sero via Mesorah" <
> mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
>
>> On 08/24/2015 10:38 AM, Ben K wrote:
>>
>>> Here too, it means "upright gates."
>>>
>>
>> No, I don't think it does. Titles of this form almost always mean
>> "the gates that lead to X". Here it means that if you pass through
>> these gates you will learn how to think straight.
>>
>> But I don't see how you can dismiss the possibility that it is indeed
>> "Shaarei Yashar", either meaning the gates through which a straight
>> person will pass, or the gates belonging to a straight person, i.e.
>> the author.
>>
>> For what it's worth, I reviewed dozens of titles of this form on
>> hebrewbooks.com, and found that in the overwhelming majority,
>> something like 90%, X referred to what the gates lead to, while
>> in all the rest X referred to the author. I didn't find any in
>> which X referred to the reader; but that's no reason why a person
>> couldn't use it in that way.
>>
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